83 - Rolling with Your Wheel of Life (with Erik Fisher)

Everyone has a wheel of life…

In this wheel there are spokes for the various areas we experience…but what I learned is that if you’ve nailed your ONE thing, it will serve as the axle to keep the wheel on the truck so everything rolls smoothly. 

My guest today is one of my favorite podcasters in the productivity space, and he’s been doing this for a really long time.  His name is Erik Fisher, and he has one of the best podcasts out there… Beyond The To-Do List.  

That pretty much sums it up right there, doesn’t it?  

I say it all the time but it’s the truth…productivity is not about checking things off your to-do list, it’s about checking off the right things. 

You can check Erik out at BeyondtheTodolist.com, subscribe to his podcast where he talks with real people who practically implement productivity strategies in their professional and personal lives.  He goes through both the failures and the successes but ultimately it’s about leading meaningful lives.


I really enjoyed our conversation this episode; we talked candidly about the non-stop, never-ending hustle mentality and contrasted it with learning to pace yourself.  As two productivity guys, we even dive into what it feels like to walk the “productivity talk,” and maintain a productive lifestyle as we teach others to do the same.


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  • Show Starts [00:22]
  • Assuming productivity is easy... [3:30]
  • Hypocrisy and forgiveness [5:30]
  • What are you currently struggling with in terms of productivity? [7:57]
  • It's all about pacing [10:36]
  • Erik's confession [13:00]
  • The Wheel of Life [16:00]
  • Spiritual aspect [18:44]
  • Defining success with your wife [20:30]
  • The difference between priorities and focus [22:22]
  • Overarching long terms 24:00
  • Erik's ONE Thing [26:38]
  • Erik's process [29:20]
  • It's not all about the to-do list [31:00]
  • The pivot point [33:10]
  • Creating (almost) a habit [36:00]
  • Where to find Erik [38:00]